Price insanity for 2-bromo-3-methylpropiophenone compared to 2b4m + some quotes to compare

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its simple, one is a precursor to an illegal product (4-MMC), which translates to normal to low demand, so lower price.
the other one is a precursor for 3-MMC, which is still in the gray area legalwise for a big part of the world and many are taking advantage of it, and that translates to high demand high price.

4-MMC is illegal everywhere, but 3-MMC for some reason instead of being categorized as a schedule I drug by the UNODC it was categorized as a schedule II, go figure.., So it still is in the gray area of legality for many countries and that's why you can find it for sale on RC shops and smartshops, it also has 3 clinical trials going on at the moment by 3 companies, Clearmind Medicine is researching 3-MMC as potential treatment for dyskinesia, MindMed has already filled a patent to use 3-MMC for PTSD, and believe it or not, a small Dutch company called Period Pill had its first clinical trial complete in the university of Maastricht researching 3-MMC as a potential treatment for menstrual symptoms, their first clinical trial is marked as successful, even though its hard to imagine what the results were..
 
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I don't agree with you. The cheaper price of 2B-4MBK is due to the fact that mephedrone is more popular in the world, as a result of which this precursor is produced by many factories in huge quantities. The second is that 3-methylpropiophenone is synthesized more difficult than 4-methylpropiophenone, which is why its cost is higher. These two factors affect the price difference, that is, the popularity of the substance reduces its price due to competition, while 2B-3-MBK is a custom-made item.
 

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its not like 3-MMC was not popular, even VICE has an episode on it, until around a year ago it was everywhere in Europe for even cheaper than 4-MMC, EUDA reported 750kg of seized 3-MMC in 2020, it became very popular very quickly, until it just disappeared, also 3-chloropropiophenone can easily be turned to 3-methylpropiophenone ,so its not difficult or expensive to obtain the materials.
 

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Could be wrong, but If it was that easy, nobody would pay ~2500usd/kg 2b3m. They would just turn 3chloro to 3methyl easily and brominate to 2b3m themselves.
 

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Maybe the answer of the high price is the following message I received from a manufacturer which concerns me.


 

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something is buggy here, copy of the concerning message

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Unfortunately, this product (2-bromo-3-methylpropiophenone-1451-83-8 ) is controlled by government and there is no manufacturer can offer it.
So it is not available at the moment.
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so 2-bromo-4-methylpropiophenone legal, but 2-bromo-3-methylpropiophenone illegal?
it doesn't sound right, mainly because its the 4-m that came first.
in any case, you can turn 3-chloropropiophenone to 3-methylpropiophenone by yourself and not worry about Chinese laws.
 

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Is there anyone with knowledge whether the liquid form can be used in the same manner as the powdered version? eg : dissolving => amination => acidification. i wouldn't see a reason why not, but thats, well.. me.
 
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