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exactly...theres nothing we can do ... we have to assume it, but the danger comes when some guy read about it and thinks, damn..i will add more to increase the power then ill be the king! and its a shitty thing which is dose dependant.... a few is very bad, but crossing the line you can kill...

im not agree at all... the benzocaine, procaine etc are antirrythmic substances and could cause a more compromised hearth status . its widely used but is not a good idea at all... to be honest all the cutting agents of cocaine are dangerous, one of the most dangerous are being added in...

in fact the problem is when we compare with the old pmk , because when we obtain that weird organic layer we think all failed , then we dont go ahead, but as i knew everybody who followed the base/acid method had to distill... i would love to know the results if someone follows the hydrogen...

im curious because it seems there are kinda trends for different combinations.....

if you are from spain...why you dont buy mercury HCL? there are many webs selling... creeme..

and yes.... the 1 step by rearranging with HCL is not valid with that wax, it needs before (as you can read in this post and in the others) NaoH 5% with dH2o , then hcl, then brine or even better neutralize with Nahc03 and then the vacuum distilation.

it needs final step, vacuum distillation to separate the impurities/water in the brown glue you mention

@William Dampier , the second part would be only applicable for the non ethyl pmk that we have now , right?

then dont follow the recipe you commented, it will not work.... for the wax you mention you need to 2 alkali-acid-purification, but even knowing it im not having good results...still working on it, changing temperatures, quatity of hcl etc, and seen changes but still bad...

those could work for the same CAS, but in oil or powder form, the more common wax need 2 steps, first alkali the acid.... and of course vacuum distillation.

hahaha..yes i thought he wrote -80cº

the problem is that the document of the seized stuff in australia etc, which i already studied, is for the methyl-pmk, (the old an easy to rearrange) not the actual ethyl-methyl form.... in fact the australian equipe followed the old recipe that appears as well in strike total synthesis...

this is the logic and general reaction for esthers and if that supposed "glycidate" would be just that it would work for we all...but there is something weird on it..god knows what they added to avoid legal issues..

the second recipe i posted came directly from the producer lab , in fact sounds very logic and promising, but the first method 8alkali-acid) we all know comes from the recipe of one of the customers of my seller... anyway..didnt worked.. and the more PRO method i didnt tested due to difficult...

could I use ether instead the DCM?

It seems that the oil only needs direct rearrangement with HCL, same as the old pmk Gly..... then lets see how it goes and please, remember to post here..tnx mate!

this is the oil or the white powder form right? the problem comes with the waxy one..but i have access to the white powder version, could you please send me the method? ill be very grateful with you. tnx!

Not remember now, im not at home, but the new one, the waxy ethyl.methyl pmk glycidate, the one which is giving problems to everyone, unless we find the solution here

hello! would be very interested in the RC'S area application, is that possible? tnx

Since it seems a lot of folks (including me) are having problems with the conversion / re-arrangement of this "new" pmk glycidate, i think we could put toguether all in thus thread to see if we finally get a 100% working conversion recipe. im following an Alkali-hcl with NaHCO3 washing with bad...