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Yeah I see that they sell that stuff over there.

Do you use methylamine for that synthesis?

https://www.chemtradeasia.com/blog/sodium-sulphate-anhydrous-a-drying-agent

Ok, now English please.

Yup, thus synthesis is pretty useless. Hard to obtain chemicals, expensive and low yields unfortunately.

Seems very interesting ill take a look at it. But the reason people don't synthesis this is because it's not cost effective.

Hell no, plus imagine being in a romanian prison with all the hard-core gangsters.

Romania?!?!? Are you serious?? You get years in prison there for weed possession so imagine if you get caught with a lab.

Hi Thanks yes I saw that. I also found a supplier in spain for p2np for around 215€ per kilo. Even if I synthesis it myself at that price it's cheaper to just buy it pre-made

But from what I know methylamine is highly restricted.

I found this for mdma, maybe someone can specify the changes for amphetamine. To a three-necked flask equipped with a dropping funnel, thermometer (into the reaction mixture), and down directed condenser (simple distillation apparatus) is added with 133g (1.72 moles) of 40% methylamine...

But it is not red it is pink. I had some at some point and I did a wash on it and it removed some of the coloring.

Lol, if you think thats sad wait till you hear about the pink speed they used to sell. ( I suspect it's pink due to mercury contamination)

Isn't sodium borohydride expensive? And at 3 kilos to produce 1 liter of amphetamine oil the cost would be a bit too much for it to be attractive.

Lol exactly, that's what they are selling. If its sticky they think it's pure apparently.

So then it makes sense that they get 6 kilos out of one kilo of oil if they can only achieve 25% purity after crystallization.

Yeah, it doesn't seem possible to scale it up for more than that. The sodium borohydride reaction is good but the cost of the sodium makes it illogical from a financial perspective.

How do you scale this reaction?? This is one of the first reactions that I made when I first started and i did a small batch. If you want to make a 1 kilogram batch you would need around 1 kilogram of foil, that stuff is huge in volume so how do you work with such a large amount?

Still, if it's 25% purity that means it's garbage amphetamine that was not cleaned properly

So you mean they just put 3-4 kilos of caffeine into the amphetamine oil?? I wonder what impurities the oil has in it if it's not crystallized.